We talk with world-renowned science fiction author Kim Stanley Robinson about his life and his novels, including his last, ‘The Ministry for the Future’ that’s been widely hailed as both a riveting story and a plan for how we survive and transcend the climate emergency.  We also talk about Ocean themes in his works from New York to California to light years beyond earth, plus his bodysurfing and his non-fiction memoir of years hiking the Sierras.  

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