While Sherman the Shark might spend the 4^th of July brunching on “hairless beach apes,” who flock to the shore despite COVID, David talks with syndicated cartoonist and ‘Sherman’s Lagoon’ creator Jim Toomey about drawing, diving, sailing, the lighter side of ocean conservation, and why, when it comes to sea creatures such as vampire squid, God’s the best animator.

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